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What is Conservative? What is Liberal? What does it matter?

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  1. SWSamurai

    The Samurai
    Joined: Sep '07
    Posts: 265

    The other day a co-worker found out that I listen to Sean Hannity during the day while I am at work.  His first response was;  "You're listening to Hannity all the time now, so now you're not even going to pretend you're an Independent anymore?"

    First off, this is not the first time someone has said something like this, people assume that when you listen to a certain type of music or a certain type of talk radio, that you are automatically a certain class or political persuasion of people.  Yet through that train of thought, at least for those that ask and are serious about the question, they do not realize exactly how ignorant they sound.  No offense to the asker listed above, since he is a reader.

    The best part of understanding anything, is to be able to, objectively, listen to both sides of an argument and make a determination based on what both sides have to say and compare it to your own research.  I do this with everything I hear on the stations that I listen to.  For the record, the stations that I listen to are as follows: Sirius - Patriot 144, Sirius - POTUS 110 and Sirius - Left 146.

    To be honest, the hardest one to listen to is Left 146.  These people are fawning and cooing all over the Obama administration like he is the best thing since sliced white bread (you may take that however you want.)  This station is like one long continuous squishy ObamaGasm, I usually feel like I need to get tested for an STD after listening for too long... ironically this is something that CBO will cover in his new Universal Healthcare.

    As if things are not bad enough on their own, we feel the need to divide ourselves further by creating these petty "Gangs" of political rivals whose only goal in life is to squabble over how to run the government instead of actually RUNNING the Government, like a poorly made remake of "West Side Story" with the rival gangs dancing up and down the streets getting nothing more done than producing their own CO2 atmosphere.

    Look at the government the way it is now, and look at the achievements that have been made by it over the last several years, say about the last twenty years.  In fact, in my opinion, the last good president we had was Reagan... not to mention that he was my Boss for a short period of time.  There are many out there that will debate this fact, but look at the history and what he accomplished in the disastrous wake of the Carter administration.

    I am not opening this post up for debate or argument on the effectiveness on presidents of the past, however I am going to bring into question the effectiveness of the current political parties that are in power.

    If the next four year pass the way I expect them to, I feel that we are going to truly see what little value there is in a single party "running the show", so to say.  If CBO and his team accomplish nothing ver the next four years, then who will they have to blame?  The Dems control the house and the senate, there will be no one to blame but themselves.

    That being said, you might ask; "'Samurai... are you saying that the Republicans would do better?"  And to that I would answer a resounding NO!!!  The Dems and the Reps have made a special point of demonstrating their uselessness over the last fifteen years or so.  If there has ever been a better time for a Third party to come in, like the proverbial knight in shinning armour on his (or her) white steed, then it is now.

    There are unfortunately few "Third" parties that would even have a chance to do anything, and among these would be the two more powerful... the Libertarian and Independent parties.  Both of whom I respect a great deal, and the reason for which I abandon the sinking ship of the Republican party and boarded the smaller, but better staffed, Independent Party.

    I would ask that anyone reading this, take the time to look at the reason they belong to the party that they chose and learn about it and why you are part of it.  Have they done everything that you think they should of or are you simply staying on with them because you think it is the right thing to do.  If you can look at the recent history of their ACCOMPLISHMENTS, not what they SAID they would do, but what they DID... and say that you are proud of them and what they stand for, then by all means... stay with them.  But if you cannot accept that they have made their decisions based on your desires, or if they do not stand for what you believe in, then for G-d's sake, leave them behind!!!

    You may think you are only one person, but every movement starts with one person.  Maybe if the Dems and the Reps see people leaving them in record numbers, then they will realize that they are making mistakes.  I feel that the only reason that they get away with half the stuff they get away with is because of the complacency of us, the people that put them in power in the first place.

    Thank you for your time.

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    SR. "Samurai" Wright. MCSE, MCP
    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. AtomicNovaGenius

    member
    Joined: Sep '07
    Posts: 160

    Here, here!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. SWSamurai

    The Samurai
    Joined: Sep '07
    Posts: 265

    Whoa... ANG and I in agreement? I better go buy a hell of a lot of lotto tickets right this damn moment! ;-D

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. I just fell off the chair and am rolling around on the floor gasping for breath. Something is wrong in the universe!!!!!

    Ang-nice to see you back... I have been absent myself due to internet connetions isssues which have now finally been resolved and its nice to have access once again.

    As to the post. While I am not yet ready to cut the cord, I do agree with many points in the post. The reality is this, both the repubs and the dems are both asleep at the wheel. Seems to me tat the goal of both parties has become, do whatever we can to stay in power. What ever happened to a citizen legislature? Where those that serve, do so only cause they have too, instead of spending their whole life planning on running for President, Congressman or Senator. To name a few, the clintons, the bushes, obama, the kennedy's. To all politicians I say this, "shut up and get out of the way, and let the people govern" It's time all the right thinking people took back our government and return to the principles of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln. "A goverment of the people, by the people, for the people"

    Dare I say this, it may be time for a little revolution!!!!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. SWSamurai

    The Samurai
    Joined: Sep '07
    Posts: 265

    Unfortunately for the USA... I think you might be right. I think it was a congressman from one of the Dakotas that said something about cessation from the Union.

    While I can see Jazz right now getting ready to intervene and remind me that it takes something like 4/5ths approval to secede, than is not entirely true. The governor of a state CAN deploy the state police (usually highway patrol) and local militia to block entry into a state and forcefully declare independence. It would be hard, but this was actually the basis for a Made of HBO movie back in the 90s.

    Back to the more probable, though. Lets say that four years go by... CBO and his gang do NOTHING. The economy is still in the tank. Wall Street is a 3500 or lower, unemployment is at 19~22%, and the average tax rate for middle class is at 22%. Two things are going to happen.

    1. After eight years of Bush and four of CBO, the people will lose all respect for both parties and either call for a massive restructure of both, or people will leave both in record numbers.

    2. We will see a MASSIVE move to reorganize government as a whole. Probably moving us to more of a Democratic Republic than a Representative Democracy, like we are supposed to be.

    Like I have said in the past. The system is pointing in the wrong direction. The government should be afraid of us. They should be terrified of the people of the country. Instead, we are all living with a worry about what they are going to do next.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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